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Midas
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So DMX, seeing as we peaked this week let’s talk about the flaws within Western Ideology/Culture, starting with women. I qualify on the subject since I was raised in two cultures, concurrently, so what I post is based on real life experience, not something I have read from a propaganda website.

As an Islamaphobe you consistency refer to the treatment of women in Islam as a stepping stone for your POV. I refer to Islam because this is the sole communication channel to my Pakistani world, i.e, your most excellent way into my culture, when in reality I am actually about to refer to sub-continental culture – Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh.

After living and breathing for 35 years I have come to the conclusion that the Western world treats women with far more disrespect than Asian cultures, by this I mean predominately white women. For example, in the Western world, freedom of expression, freedom of thought, and democracy are encouraged. What this means is that women at a young age see no wrong in wanton sex because as far as they are concerned freedom is a right. However, any smart and intelligent man will tell you that with freedom must come discipline, something which is lacking in Western culture.

The result? By the time of marriage, Western women would’ve slept with untold number of men. For what ever reason, this is not the point, the point is your Western culture and ideology promotes freedom on the back of self responsibility - not happening. You know what? In my culture virginity is utmost respect for a woman. If she loses it before marriage she loses respect.

Now you may argue that respect is a non issue, but it would be in vain and it would be BS of the highest order. Do you know why? When I placed your mother in this Western cultural equation in which you take pride in, you felt offended. You were offended because you believed I disrespected your mother. But was I? How many Western women are a virgin at the time of marriage? You laugh at monogamy, you laugh of my culture, but why did you feel offended when I mentioned boyfriends etc with respect to your mother’s past? Something new or shocking in Western culture is it? Of course it wasn't, it’s the norm in these parts of the world, right?

Virginity is respect for a woman, in Pakistani culture, in Islam, something which the Western world hasn’t quite twigged yet, and something which any woman on HF will testify too. They won’t admit it, but deep down they know.

This is just one of many flaws I have found within Western ideology.

Feel free to append the list. Smile

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Virginity is respect for a woman, in Pakistani culture, in Islam, something which the Western world hasn’t quite twigged yet, and something which any woman on HF will testify too. They won’t admit it, but deep down they know.



What about the days in [for example] Englands past when society was predominantly focused on the values of Christianity?

Your statement is flawed as we too shared this view in the past, we evolved beyond it - as will Islamic society one day perhaps.

Some facets of Islam give me the impression that it's followers are in some way living in something equivalent to the Middle ages in terms of their beliefs.


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What about the days in [for example] Englands past when society was predominantly focused on the values of Christianity?

Your statement is flawed as we too shared this view in the past, we evolved beyond it - as will Islamic society one day perhaps.

Some facets of Islam give me the impression that it's followers are in some way living in something equivalent to the Middle ages in terms of their beliefs.



Like your racist girlfriend?

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Midas
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NeonBlue wrote on 03-11-2009 08:05 PM

What about the days in [for example] Englands past when society was predominantly focused on the values of Christianity?



Even in Christianity a woman's virginity is sacred. But who cares about Christianity or religious morals in this modern Western world?

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Your statement is flawed as we too shared this view in the past, we evolved beyond it - as will Islamic society one day perhaps.



It's not flawed. In this country alone family values are non existence. Why is this? It's because the basis of this country, Christian values, are not only frowned upon but are mocked too. Remember when Sunday was a proper family day at home? Roast dinner, TV, wine etc? There is deep purpose and meaning behind all of this.

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Some facets of Islam give me the impression that it's followers are in some way living in something equivalent to the Middle ages in terms of their beliefs.



I agree with this. It's a small fanatical sect which warrant Global news, bunch of idiots if you ask me.



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Like your racist girlfriend?



Got anything that's actually on topic or constructive to say?

You bell-end.

"If this is your God, he's not very impressive. He has so many psychological problems; he's so insecure. He demands worship every seven days. He goes out and creates faulty Humans and then blames them for his own mistakes. He's a pretty poor excuse for a Supreme Being." Gene Roddenberry

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[Edited by Donnie on 03-11-2009 20:26 PM]

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Donnie wrote on 03-11-2009 08:09 PM

Like your racist girlfriend?



Got anything that's actually on topic or constructive to say?

You bell-end.



It was relevant to your last post.

Anyway, there are 25 days until the HF party so I'm wondering if I consentrate my efforts on you for this period if I can make you snap once again............

tick-tock-tick-tock.......the countdown to Neonblue losing it has begun..

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Midas wrote on 03-11-2009 07:56 PM

So DMX, seeing as we peaked this week let’s talk about the flaws within Western Ideology/Culture, starting with women. I qualify on the subject since I was raised in two cultures, concurrently, so what I post is based on real life experience, not something I have read from a propaganda website.

As an Islamaphobe you consistency refer to the treatment of women in Islam as a stepping stone for your POV. I refer to Islam because this is the sole communication channel to my Pakistani world, i.e, your most excellent way into my culture, when in reality I am actually about to refer to sub-continental culture – Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh.

After living and breathing for 35 years I have come to the conclusion that the Western world treats women with far more disrespect than Asian cultures, by this I mean predominately white women. For example, in the Western world, freedom of expression, freedom of thought, and democracy are encouraged. What this means is that women at a young age see no wrong in wanton sex because as far as they are concerned freedom is a right. However, any smart and intelligent man will tell you that with freedom must come discipline, something which is lacking in Western culture.

The result? By the time of marriage, Western women would’ve slept with untold number of men. For what ever reason, this is not the point, the point is your Western culture and ideology promotes freedom on the back of self responsibility - not happening. You know what? In my culture virginity is utmost respect for a woman. If she loses it before marriage she loses respect.

Now you may argue that respect is a non issue, but it would be in vain and it would be BS of the highest order. Do you know why? When I placed your mother in this Western cultural equation in which you take pride in, you felt offended. You were offended because you believed I disrespected your mother. But was I? How many Western women are a virgin at the time of marriage? You laugh at monogamy, you laugh of my culture, but why did you feel offended when I mentioned boyfriends etc with respect to your mother’s past? Something new or shocking in Western culture is it? Of course it wasn't, it’s the norm in these parts of the world, right?

Virginity is respect for a woman, in Pakistani culture, in Islam, something which the Western world hasn’t quite twigged yet, and something which any woman on HF will testify too. They won’t admit it, but deep down they know.

This is just one of many flaws I have found within Western ideology.

Feel free to append the list. Smile



Serious Q,


Do Islam women wank off at all? Or are they totally sexually chaste? How can they deny such a massive and pleasurable urge as that of sexual gratification?



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How can they deny such a massive and pleasurable urge as that of sexual gratification?



Through discipline.


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