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[Edited by Reverse Swing on 24-10-2016 20:15 PM] Quote:
| Coops wrote on 24-10-2016 07:00 PM
Yes we should. Tthe Tories got in with the slimiest of majorities and a different leader, they are now proceeding with policies that were not in their manifesto. They have no mandate to govern. |
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I got news for you, MPs should be fulfilling the will of the people, and not their own agendas, meaning, Democracy is the biggest mandate. As for having a different leader, we live in a Parliament democracy where our elected MPs choose a leader, which is a sure lot better than the 5 EU leaders that are truly un-elected by every stretch of the imagination that practically rule the EU – the irony.
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I do think that when people use words like "remoaners" it shows a lack of intelligence. Can you not debate a point without resulting to a cheap tabloid insult? |
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I was just having some fun. Bragging rights and all. If you noticed I called myself a ‘Brexorcist’. Don’t take it too personally. If you perceive my comments as an insult then I really am lost for words.
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| Coops wrote on 24-10-2016 07:00 PM
The majority was extremely slim. The campaigns were misleading. The consequences are major. |
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Campaigns were misleading? How?
In a true democracy the most number of votes wins. This is what the UK (and Western world) take pride in, Democracy. Whether slim majority, or a land slide, Leave won and the UK is pulling out of the EU. Accept this fact and move on.
Speaking of which, if a Football match in the EPL ends in a draw, should there be a rematch? Forget a slim margin, there is no margin!
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| voodoobass wrote on 24-10-2016 05:57 PM
The vote is always going to be 48/52 or 49/51 if you allow people only two choices. You have only to look at the US election results for the last few presidentials to see proof of that. This is actually why I am very worried about the way UK politics is playing out at the moment as IMO after the disasterous (for LibDem) coalition, the media is doing its' utmost to create a paradigm where we become a true 2-party state like the USA. Corbyn may seem like an ideal person to vote for but I am worried that he has been placed where he is in order to soak up the remaining LD votors who are disappointed with Clegg's LD and also to have a go at bringing a lot of Green voters back to Labour.
You'll find that out of all the people that voted 'Remain' that many of them are actually not happy with the EU and only voted 'Remain' because they don't like Tory/UKIP's policies beyond the 'get out of Europe' thing or are foolish enough to think that they can change the EU if we stay in it. And many people did vote 'Leave' as a protest against Austerity, because they think (right or wrong) that the EU is the cause of much of the austerity ill suffered by the UK, although that is by the by.
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The EU is a bankrupt ideology. You make it sound like EU/EZ is a prosperous economy.
If the 23rd June vote was to join the EU, no one would join the EU in it's current state. massive unemployment, negative bond yields, negative interest rates, a currency that is torpedoed by QE, Banks on the verge of collapse, and your Nazi gun toting leader Merkal - who as part of Nato - bombed the living daylights out of Syria and then wondered why she had to accept 1 Million refuges without a single VETO among EU leaders?
The real enemy of the UK is not rouge states and their warped ideology, or Russia who were British allies in WW1 and WW2, it is Europe. Thrice Europe has tried to destroy the UK, and thrice UK has fought for it's sovereignty.
Save the EU propaganda.
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| Reverse Swing wrote on 24-10-2016 08:08 PM
The EU is a bankrupt ideology. You make it sound like EU/EZ is a prosperous economy.
If the 23rd June vote was to join the EU, no one would join the EU in it's current state. massive unemployment, negative bond yields, negative interest rates, a currency that is torpedoed by QE, Banks on the verge of collapse, and your Nazi gun toting leader Merkal - who as part of Nato - bombed the living daylights out of Syria and then wondered why she had to accept 1 Million refuges without a single VETO among EU leaders?
The real enemy of the UK is not rouge states and their warped ideology, or Russia who were British allies in WW1 and WW2, it is Europe. Thrice Europe has tried to destroy the UK, and thrice UK has fought for it's sovereignty.
Save the EU propaganda.
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Now get muslim out of your head, because this is driving your hopes and dreams, which banks are 'on the verge of collapse'?, or should we all just believe you?
Nothing on the news sites. Which banks are on the verge of collapse Ziad?
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Yes Aaron, leader of the Children of Israel, brother of Moses, as hard as it is to believe, White Anglo Saxons have caused more damaged, bloodshed, and harm to the UK than any other non-white folk, religious or not religious.
Thank Islam, bow to your ONE God, for it was not for the FEAR of Islam in the UK in the past decade, the impetus behind the Leave campaign would not exist.
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[Edited by voodoobass on 24-10-2016 21:53 PM] Quote:
| Reverse Swing wrote on 24-10-2016 08:08 PM
The EU is a bankrupt ideology. You make it sound like EU/EZ is a prosperous economy.
If the 23rd June vote was to join the EU, no one would join the EU in it's current state. massive unemployment, negative bond yields, negative interest rates, a currency that is torpedoed by QE, Banks on the verge of collapse, and your Nazi gun toting leader Merkal - who as part of Nato - bombed the living daylights out of Syria and then wondered why she had to accept 1 Million refuges without a single VETO among EU leaders?
The real enemy of the UK is not rouge states and their warped ideology, or Russia who were British allies in WW1 and WW2, it is Europe. Thrice Europe has tried to destroy the UK, and thrice UK has fought for it's sovereignty.
Save the EU propaganda.
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You are misunderstanding me. I am trying to say the vote for 'leave' might have been even bigger were it not for left-wing eurosceptics (such as myself) distaste for allowing the entire process to be organised and overseen by the Tories and/or UKIP
I say eurosceptic not hardcore Brexiteer as I think there are certain advantages to the union as it was in the late 90s but I am firmly against the overexpansion and superfederalisation that subsequently occured.
[edit] in fact you're not even misunderstanding me, you clearly didn't even read my post :/
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