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Syfoon
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Funboy Hashtag Yoloswaggins wrote on 01-07-2015 03:56 PM

i'd be more inclined to play PS2 on PC if it was a full, paid for title, rather than "buy-to-win"



PS2 is nowhere near P2W mate. Not even close. And I should know, after 3000 hours in it as both a mindless grunt and a leader of a pretty well-known outfit/clan.

I paid £60 for a years sub in the first year, and all it gave me was increased cert gain and priority in queues. That's it.

The guns aren't P2W upgrades, they're sidegrades - they're useful in different roles. The T9-CARV, a TR starting LMG excels in close-quarters, but one of the purchasable (and you can buy EVERYTHING in-game with the earnable certs) LMGs will act in a different role, the T32 Bull for example is incredible at long-range, but expect to get dunked on in CQB unless you can ping headshots.

And you can't buy certs to assist you in getting higher tier suitslots or tools, everyone has to earn them. Want max-level jumpjets for your Light Assault? Better get to earning some certs. Same is true for everything, from your medic's heal/revive tool, to your MAX suits armour. They're the most important part of PS2, and you can't upgrade them by throwing money at the game.

It being F2P helps it maintain it's large-scale. PS2 needs bodies for it to be PS2, so restricting people behind a paywall, either WoW-style forced sub, mandatory purchase or P2W nonsense would hurt the game. It's exactly why PS1 never really got that big, even though it was probably the most revolutionary shooter of its era.

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Syfoon wrote on 01-07-2015 03:41 PM

and doesn't hold the players hand at the start,



yeah this is kind of a big deal for me

I don't have *that* much free time, and when I do, having to learn relatively complex stuff in a short amount of time is quite a hard sell for me (maybe I'm just thick)

I played ps1 on PC years ago and really enjoyed being swept along in massive battles
Finding it a little daunting the second time around

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Syfoon
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Benton Wells wrote on 02-07-2015 09:34 AM

yeah this is kind of a big deal for me

I don't have *that* much free time, and when I do, having to learn relatively complex stuff in a short amount of time is quite a hard sell for me (maybe I'm just thick)

I played ps1 on PC years ago and really enjoyed being swept along in massive battles
Finding it a little daunting the second time around



Completely understandable.

Same PS1 rules apply, though. Join squads, bring Sunderers, flip points, kill SCUs and zerg if you're feeling lazy.

Also no ANT/MTU system in PS2, so there's not that logistical nightmare (yet). They tried to make the gameplay faster paced so some of the more annoying stuff in PS1 didn't make it - not all bases have walls or an SCU, there's no auto base turrets and the bases generally aren't corridor mazes like the PS1 ones were.

But having some PS1 experience, you're in a better place than 99% of the PS2onPS4 playerbase!

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Benton Wells wrote on 27-06-2015 12:25 PM

I tried the Planetside 2 beta on PS4 but there was almost nobody else on the server so I logged out and carried on with my life



Give it another go - EU servers are filling up nicely, especially Ceres.

It's still rough around the edges and doesn't hold the players hand at the start, but it's really worth the effort. A 300+player battle over an outpost, Biolab or tower is something to behold, and something that isn't available in any other game.



A 2000+ castle siege on Aden was even more intense in Lineage 2.

Outpost battles in Neocron were nuts too.



I may have to give this one a go. Slightly put off by all of the in game purchases. Is there the ability to get good in game gear without these add ons?




Raiding for Adena (currency) and drops that you can sell to other players / shops, then equipment is built by dwarf Artisans and you get enchantment scripts that bless your armour for +1 / +2 etc (they don't always succeed though and it can be destroyed though which is a c**t).

Bear in mind it's a PvP based MMO with a karma system and the grinding is long, but it's a hellishly addictive and fun game.

It's easily one of the most beautiful games ever made, I think it's completely free now as well.

Guild wars is good fun and a lot less serious.

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Syfoon wrote on 02-07-2015 03:56 PM

Completely understandable.

Same PS1 rules apply, though. Join squads, bring Sunderers, flip points, kill SCUs and zerg if you're feeling lazy.

Also no ANT/MTU system in PS2, so there's not that logistical nightmare (yet). They tried to make the gameplay faster paced so some of the more annoying stuff in PS1 didn't make it - not all bases have walls or an SCU, there's no auto base turrets and the bases generally aren't corridor mazes like the PS1 ones were.

But having some PS1 experience, you're in a better place than 99% of the PS2onPS4 playerbase!



are you on ps4?
im guessing theres no sharing of servers with pc / ps4?

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are you on ps4?
im guessing theres no sharing of servers with pc / ps4?



Nope, I'm on PC.

And nope, PC would be too destructive vs console guys. It wouldn't be fun for 'em as they wouldn't stand a chance.

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joypads take all the enjoyment out of FPS

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Funboy Hashtag Yoloswaggins
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Syfoon wrote on 02-07-2015 05:04 PM

Nope, I'm on PC.

And nope, PC would be too destructive vs console guys. It wouldn't be fun for 'em as they wouldn't stand a chance.



unless they are like my brother, who bought a xim360 or something for the last xbox. keyboard + mouse + aim assist = total destruction and many crying people over live chat

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