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HarderFaster Forums >> General Mayhem >> Brexit Consequences Author Pages (86):  « Prev ... «  66  67  68  69  [70]  71  72  73  74  » ... Next »    Matt V2.0 Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 17728 - Threads: 847 Location: Surrey 2016 Honourable Mention Party Animal Shit's getting real, UK blinks first. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42060183 Quote: Brexit supporters in the cabinet have agreed the UK should offer to pay more money to the EU as it leaves. But no formal offer will be made until the EU agrees to begin talking about a new trade deal with the UK. No new figure has been given - but it is thought it could be up to £40bn, which would be double what the UK's offers so far add up to. Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 21-11-2017 10:23 AM danj there is no spoon Registered: Mar 2005 Posts: 18374 - Threads: 785 Location: Omnipresent Quote: Matt wrote on 20-11-2017 02:02 PM Quote: danj wrote on 20-11-2017 01:43 PM Yet you voted to leave based on some of these, fallacies No, I answered the question and voted to leave the EU. Not the EEA. Of course that would require the 3 principles remain intact but would avoid the need for trade talks as we'd still have everything in place. We'd just be negotiating the price and, in that scenario, payment would be ongoing so the EU wouldn't be completely f****d. You voted remain so I presume you're comfortable with the European Army, common foreign policy, central taxation etc. etc. etc. Pretty much; I'm all for the United States of Europe. Seems to be working alright for the USA. (¬_/) (='.'=) (")_(") HF2 - coming soon! Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 21-11-2017 11:37 AM danj there is no spoon Registered: Mar 2005 Posts: 18374 - Threads: 785 Location: Omnipresent Quote: Matt wrote on 20-11-2017 02:16 PM Quote: Quin. wrote on 20-11-2017 02:00 PM Yeah, which means Liam Fox has been basically pointless, which at least was official this time rather than just his natural state No, Dan was saying Cameron should have been negotiating trade deals when he went to the EU to raise issues caused by successive treaties which we didn't get a vote on. Unlike The Netherlands, Ireland, Italy, etc. etc. The democratic EU members. That wasn't about trade, it was about the UK's role in the EU. Those issues haven't changed, if anything the EU is showing its true direction which is alienating other EU members too. No, I said we should have been *discussing* them, we can't obviously negotiate any deals until we're out of the EU but Cameron should have brought up potential options LONG before the call to referendum. It's a complete fallacy. (¬_/) (='.'=) (")_(") HF2 - coming soon! Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 21-11-2017 11:40 AM Quin. ??? Registered: Oct 2010 Posts: 33316 - Threads: 426 Location: london Quote: danj wrote on 21-11-2017 11:40 AM Quote: Matt wrote on 20-11-2017 02:16 PM Quote: Quin. wrote on 20-11-2017 02:00 PM Yeah, which means Liam Fox has been basically pointless, which at least was official this time rather than just his natural state No, Dan was saying Cameron should have been negotiating trade deals when he went to the EU to raise issues caused by successive treaties which we didn't get a vote on. Unlike The Netherlands, Ireland, Italy, etc. etc. The democratic EU members. That wasn't about trade, it was about the UK's role in the EU. Those issues haven't changed, if anything the EU is showing its true direction which is alienating other EU members too. No, I said we should have been *discussing* them, we can't obviously negotiate any deals until we're out of the EU but Cameron should have brought up potential options LONG before the call to referendum. It's a complete fallacy. LOL @ Cameron thinking about options, no-one had remotely considered we'd leave in the government. ??? Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 21-11-2017 11:41 AM danj there is no spoon Registered: Mar 2005 Posts: 18374 - Threads: 785 Location: Omnipresent [Edited by danj on 21-11-2017 11:50 AM] Quote: Quin. wrote on 21-11-2017 11:41 AM Quote: danj wrote on 21-11-2017 11:40 AM Quote: Matt wrote on 20-11-2017 02:16 PM Quote: Quin. wrote on 20-11-2017 02:00 PM Yeah, which means Liam Fox has been basically pointless, which at least was official this time rather than just his natural state No, Dan was saying Cameron should have been negotiating trade deals when he went to the EU to raise issues caused by successive treaties which we didn't get a vote on. Unlike The Netherlands, Ireland, Italy, etc. etc. The democratic EU members. That wasn't about trade, it was about the UK's role in the EU. Those issues haven't changed, if anything the EU is showing its true direction which is alienating other EU members too. No, I said we should have been *discussing* them, we can't obviously negotiate any deals until we're out of the EU but Cameron should have brought up potential options LONG before the call to referendum. It's a complete fallacy. LOL @ Cameron thinking about options, no-one had remotely considered we'd leave in the government. Point in case, a competent individual would have prepared for the worst, at least, that's what I would have done. F**king yes men 'think they know it all' c**ts make me want to smash my head against a brick wall. That pig f**king c**t will go to hell and burn for eternity, I'll make a personal request to Satan to make sure of it. (¬_/) (='.'=) (")_(") HF2 - coming soon! Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 21-11-2017 11:47 AM Matt V2.0 Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 17728 - Threads: 847 Location: Surrey 2016 Honourable Mention Party Animal Quote: danj wrote on 21-11-2017 11:37 AM Pretty much; I'm all for the United States of Europe. Seems to be working alright for the USA. Come back to me when schools across Europe start their day raising the European flag and singing the European national anthem and I'll be with you. Until that time, or anywhere moving towards that kind of unity, the EU is a collection of sovereign states seeking to work together... Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 21-11-2017 12:06 PM Matt V2.0 Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 17728 - Threads: 847 Location: Surrey 2016 Honourable Mention Party Animal Quote: Quin. wrote on 21-11-2017 11:41 AM Quote: danj wrote on 21-11-2017 11:40 AM No, I said we should have been *discussing* them, we can't obviously negotiate any deals until we're out of the EU but Cameron should have brought up potential options LONG before the call to referendum. It's a complete fallacy. LOL @ Cameron thinking about options, no-one had remotely considered we'd leave in the government. Discussing trade deals with whom? The EU?? Cameron's visit was way before trade talks were appropriate or necessary, he assured the EU that the referendum wasn't a problem, we wouldn't vote to leave. Clearly he believed that himself. Twat. And despite polls showing it was close, Cameron and his government made NO preparations. Which confirms they had no idea what would happen, they just latched onto anything which supported project fear. Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 21-11-2017 12:13 PM Matt V2.0 Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 17728 - Threads: 847 Location: Surrey 2016 Honourable Mention Party Animal Quote: danj wrote on 21-11-2017 11:47 AM Point in case, a competent individual would have prepared for the worst, at least, that's what I would have done. F**king yes men 'think they know it all' c**ts make me want to smash my head against a brick wall. That pig f**king c**t will go to hell and burn for eternity, I'll make a personal request to Satan to make sure of it. It's not just Cameron's fault, Major and Blair are also to blame for Brexit. A competent Prime Minister and Government would have consulted the people on EU treaties, like our more neighbours have done: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_related_to_the_European_Union Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged 21-11-2017 12:20 PM All times are GMT. The time now is 06:37:24         Pages (86):  « Prev ... «  66  67  68  69  [70]  71  72  73  74  » ... 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