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louloubell
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Aren't many of the Brexiters golden oldies who probably won't see past the two years when it'll be implemented.

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Aren't many of the Brexiters golden oldies who probably won't see past the two years when it'll be implemented.



Yes we probably are, but nobody has bothered to ask why we voted No to remaining in the EU and our vision for the future relationship between the UK and EU.

Instead the government is pandering to the "ban immigrants" brigade and we're heading off the cliff.

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Yes we probably are, but [b]nobody has bothered to ask why we voted No to remaining in the EU and our vision for the future relationship between the UK and EU.[/]

Instead the government is pandering to the "ban immigrants" brigade and we're heading off the cliff.



If you thought that would ever happen then you're mad.

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If you thought that would ever happen then you're mad.



Why? The referendum question was whether the UK should leave the EU and we all voted accordingly. There was no box for or against immigration, contributions to the EU, EU law etc.

This is the only research I've seen on the reasons for voting: http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/

Belittling each other isn't helping us get a good result, we're pandering to the worst elements of each side rather than asking questions and joining together to dictate how we move forward.

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If you thought that would ever happen then you're mad.



Actually, on reflection, it's even stranger that the government who were supposedly pro remain are looking to impose the harshest version of Brexit possible.

Why not take the opportunity to call a general election and put a moderate vision to the vote?

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Actually, on reflection, it's even stranger that the government who were supposedly pro remain are looking to impose the harshest version of Brexit possible.

Why not take the opportunity to call a general election and put a moderate vision to the vote?



I am suprised that, given the weakness of Labour right now, that the Tories haven't capitalised on this. Called another GE in an attempt to tighten their grip on the country.

I mean I'm glad they haven't.

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I am suprised that, given the weakness of Labour right now, that the Tories haven't capitalised on this. Called another GE in an attempt to tighten their grip on the country.

I mean I'm glad they haven't.



Yeah, given she and most of her cabinet supposedly supported remain I thought this would have been the perfect opportunity for May to put her foot down on Brexit.

Call a GE with watered down Brexit proposals, which in hindsight most remainers and leavers would support. Better still, make that the single issue and secure another 5 years without any other pesky manifesto pledges getting in the way of future policy.

I guess we'd have to weigh up the express train of Brexit vs 5 years of Conservative rule Scratches Chin

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Yeah, given she and most of her cabinet supposedly supported remain I thought this would have been the perfect opportunity for May to put her foot down on Brexit.

Call a GE with watered down Brexit proposals, which in hindsight most remainers and leavers would support. Better still, make that the single issue and secure another 5 years without any other pesky manifesto pledges getting in the way of future policy.

I guess we'd have to weigh up the express train of Brexit vs 5 years of Conservative rule Scratches Chin



what will now be 7 years rather than 10. Looking for the positives.

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what will now be 7 years rather than 10. Looking for the positives.



7?

She's doing a Brown and gambling her 3-year term on winning 5.

I'm not sure she's got this one right!

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