Registered: Oct 2003 Posts: 18333 - Threads: 791 Location: South Croydon
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robmasterton wrote on 19-05-2005 05:22 PM
i don't really see either of those as being all that well suited for djing with ableton - the one is 8 channel faders and the other looks like a really tacky control panel from a cheap double cd player...
8 Channel faders and 8 rotaries. What more could you need? Well more rotaries might be nice....
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Gavani @ Black Sheep Bar, Croydon, Sunday July 3rd
i'm no expert on ableton but from my messing about with it i'd say that to use it for djing you it would be beneficial to have:
at least 4 line faders, 6 or 8 would be better
3 rotaries for each channel you want to use, to control the eq (ie a minimum of 12)
more rotaries to control fx - it would be a shame to waste the potential to use some of the really cool vsts
something to control the master pitch
some means of cueing up tunes without having to spend ages clicking on things
something to cut loops on the fly
something made by a company with a better reputation for quality than behringer
there's probably more things too, i am talking about something by which you could control enough to unlock the full potential of the software, not just the basic stuff like the levels.
Registered: Oct 2003 Posts: 18333 - Threads: 791 Location: South Croydon
To be honest there is no better tool for cutting up loops etc than a mouse/touch pad. At least I can't think of one. Same goes for cueing. The beauty of software like Ableton is the huge degree of control you have with a mouse and pointer environment. A guess a touch screen would do the job, that's about all I can think of.
Master tempo - assign to a fader?
Rotaries, well yes I said more rotaries BUT with the BCF2000 having continuous rotaries a bit of bank switching is not a problem. You can use the same rotaries for different functions at the press of a button. A button on the BCF that is. Inspite of Behringer's reputation the BCF got an excellent review in Sound on Sound which I reckon is the best music tech magazine in print. I'm gonna buy one to use with Cubase. After my new guitar, Presonsus firepod, AKG D112, SM57........
I am not an IP, I am a HUMAN BEING!
Gavani @ Black Sheep Bar, Croydon, Sunday July 3rd
To be honest there is no better tool for cutting up loops etc than a mouse/touch pad. At least I can't think of one. Same goes for cueing. The beauty of software like Ableton is the huge degree of control you have with a mouse and pointer environment. A guess a touch screen would do the job, that's about all I can think of.
Master tempo - assign to a fader?
Rotaries, well yes I said more rotaries BUT with the BCF2000 having continuous rotaries a bit of bank switching is not a problem. You can use the same rotaries for different functions at the press of a button. A button on the BCF that is. Inspite of Behringer's reputation the BCF got an excellent review in Sound on Sound which I reckon is the best music tech magazine in print. I'm gonna buy one to use with Cubase. After my new guitar, Presonsus firepod, AKG D112, SM57........
as i said, i am not an expert on ableton, these are just things that i thought would make it more "dj friendly" and something that you could use like an instrument rather than a computer program... bank switching is a good point - if i'd only thought to try that on my remote 25 (which is pretty decent for ableton, just not *perfect*)
Registered: Dec 2002 Posts: 16490 - Threads: 738 Location: Düsseldorf
Just as a another piece of info to the whole debate. The Psy scene dumped vinyl ages ago and all releases are on CD. Why is the rest of the dance scene so blinkered to the evolution of technology. Vinyl is nicer to mix on and is infinitely 'cooler' and this I can't deny, but I'm willing to bet my left testicle that it won't be the format of choice in 5 years time.
Just think, you'll be able to sit round the camp fire in 2016 and your kids will say "Dad, did DJ's really used to mix on Vinyl?".
And you'll answer with the memories of playing the main room at Brixton academy main stage fresh in your mind, "Yes Theodore and Barnaby, I used to spin with vinyl".
Obviously at this point you'll also have a flash back to your mate Dave who gurned so much his teeth cut his ear open. You'll probably also remember that slapper who danced on the speaker on the main stage with no knickers on. You'll probably also be wondering what it would be like to do a pill again.
"Yes, Indeed kids. They used to play vinyl".
Watch your step c*ntface.If I hadn't of snorted that line you would have just crossed it.
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19-05-2005 18:30 PM
