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Quin. wrote on 19-04-2017 10:00 AM

oh and robshaw, haskell (who played in New Zealand), Launchbury who is in oustanding form all to miss out also, I think this is going to be am omnishambles.



I've read exactly the same as you, Launchbury & Joseph are huge omissions in my view.



i think if Fatland bases his squad mainly on a team that just managed to finish above ireland only and a team that while admittedly beating new zealand in a one-off freak stateside game but then got walloped at home then he'll be making a grave error.



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i think if Fatland bases his squad mainly on a team that just managed to finish above ireland only and a team that while admittedly beating new zealand in a one-off freak stateside game but then got walloped at home then he'll be making a grave error.



If what I read yesterday is anywhere near accurate - and I think they were presenting the actual team as 'suspected' to get around press embargoes - then from memory it listed 10 England players from the 37.

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Jamie George is apparently to get the nod over Dylan Hartley - the right decision if you ask me.
George has been far more impressive than Hartley in this year's 6N.

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Jamie George is apparently to get the nod over Dylan Hartley - the right decision if you ask me.
George has been far more impressive than Hartley in this year's 6N.



And in the league as well.

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And in the league as well.



So, Joseph is IN, but no Launchbury - full official squad:

Forwards:

Rory Best (Ireland), Dan Cole (England), Taulupe Faletau (Wales), Tadhg Furlong (Ireland), Jamie George (England), Iain Henderson (Ireland), Maro Itoje (England), Alun Wyn Jones (Wales), George Kruis (England), Courtney Lawes (England), Joe Marler (England), Jack McGrath (Ireland), Ross Moriarty (Wales), Sean O'Brien (Ireland), Peter O'Mahony (Ireland), Ken Owens (Wales), Kyle Sinckler (England), CJ Stander (Ireland), Justin Tipuric (Wales), Billy Vunipola (England), Mako Vunipola (England), Sam Warburton (Wales)

Backs:

Dan Biggar (Wales), Elliot Daly (England), Jonathan Davies (Wales), Owen Farrell (England), Leigh Halfpenny (Wales), Robbie Henshaw (Ireland), Stuart Hogg (Scotland), Jonathan Joseph (England), Conor Murray (Ireland), George North (Wales), Jack Nowell (England), Jared Payne (Ireland), Jonathan Sexton (Ireland), Tommy Seymour (Scotland), Ben Te'o (England), Anthony Watson (England), Rhys Webb (Wales), Liam Williams (Wales), Ben Youngs (England)

Surprised at Moriarty - but he had some great moments while on the pitch in the 6N.
Tommy Seymour I'm also surprised at and Kyle Sinckler.

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So, Joseph is IN, but no Launchbury - full official squad:

Forwards:

Rory Best (Ireland), Dan Cole (England), Taulupe Faletau (Wales), Tadhg Furlong (Ireland), Jamie George (England), Iain Henderson (Ireland), Maro Itoje (England), Alun Wyn Jones (Wales), George Kruis (England), Courtney Lawes (England), Joe Marler (England), Jack McGrath (Ireland), Ross Moriarty (Wales), Sean O'Brien (Ireland), Peter O'Mahony (Ireland), Ken Owens (Wales), Kyle Sinckler (England), CJ Stander (Ireland), Justin Tipuric (Wales), Billy Vunipola (England), Mako Vunipola (England), Sam Warburton (Wales)

Backs:

Dan Biggar (Wales), Elliot Daly (England), Jonathan Davies (Wales), Owen Farrell (England), Leigh Halfpenny (Wales), Robbie Henshaw (Ireland), Stuart Hogg (Scotland), Jonathan Joseph (England), Conor Murray (Ireland), George North (Wales), Jack Nowell (England), Jared Payne (Ireland), Jonathan Sexton (Ireland), Tommy Seymour (Scotland), Ben Te'o (England), Anthony Watson (England), Rhys Webb (Wales), Liam Williams (Wales), Ben Youngs (England)

Surprised at Moriarty - but he had some great moments while on the pitch in the 6N.
Tommy Seymour I'm also surprised at and Kyle Sinckler.



Likewise, and I'd probably have taken launchbury over Kruis as he's only just back from Injury. Warburtun still may not make it. Moriarty has looked handy to be fair.

The squad isn't as bad as i feared.

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Also - Liam Williams is not as good as the hype would have people believe.

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Also - Liam Williams is not as good as the hype would have people believe.



I think he had a decent enough 6N.
Who might you have put in his place: Trimble, Zebo, Nowell, May, Visser? All of the above?

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