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Quin. wrote on 19-09-2017 05:30 PM

Agreed, if only they had more funding and better sentencing to go with it.



Claps Hands very true.



But they dont and without these groups, how many childrens lives would be destroyed and ruined? If the cops aint doing it, who else is? Nobody...

In a perfect word there wouldnt be nonces or there would be adequate resource for the police to tackle this epidemic properly. Bottom line, there isnt so the general public has stepped up. They are not violent and get the job done, their conviction rates show this.

I am all for them, the cops aint doing it and they are getting fantastic results

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[Edited by Matt on 19-09-2017 19:27 PM]

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skaramanga wrote on 19-09-2017 05:46 PM

But they dont and without these groups, how many childrens lives would be destroyed and ruined? If the cops aint doing it, who else is? Nobody...

In a perfect word there wouldnt be nonces or there would be adequate resource for the police to tackle this epidemic properly. Bottom line, there isnt so the general public has stepped up. They are not violent and get the job done, their conviction rates show this.

I am all for them, the cops aint doing it and they are getting fantastic results



Interesting comment by Chief Constable Simon Bailey, the national lead for child protection at the National Police Chiefs' Council (from the BBC story I posted above)

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"[These] vigilante groups are putting the lives of children at risk.

"They might not perceive it that way, but they are potentially compromising our operations."

However, Mr Bailey said: "I'm not going to condone these groups and I would encourage them all to stop, but I recognise that I am not winning that conversation."



I'm not clear how children's lives are being put at risk, he goes on to say:

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When asked whether police could work with vigilantes, he said: "I think that's something we're going to have to potentially have to look at, yes, but it comes with some real complexity."

He added: "The biggest challenge here from my perspective is there has to start to be a new approach to policing the web.

"We have to start asking the technical companies, ICT, the software providers to police the environments and stop these offences happening in the first place."



That's a cop out, pun intended. The police need to recruit more computer literate office-based employees whose job is to tackle online crime like this and, perhaps more prevalent, fraud.

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skaramanga wrote on 19-09-2017 05:46 PM

But they dont and without these groups, how many childrens lives would be destroyed and ruined? If the cops aint doing it, who else is? Nobody...

In a perfect word there wouldnt be nonces or there would be adequate resource for the police to tackle this epidemic properly. Bottom line, there isnt so the general public has stepped up. They are not violent and get the job done, their conviction rates show this.

I am all for them, the cops aint doing it and they are getting fantastic results



If it's an epidemic then why? Sorry but Daily Mail type language always makes me eye roll. I find it takes away from the actual issue.
If it is more prevalent than it was in the 60's or 70's or 80's etc then why? What has made it an epidemic now and not then?

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If it's an epidemic then why? Sorry but Daily Mail type language always makes me eye roll. I find it takes away from the actual issue.
If it is more prevalent than it was in the 60's or 70's or 80's etc then why? What has made it an epidemic now and not then?



The internet probably, making it easier to get your nonce on.

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The internet probably, making it easier to get your nonce on.



But that means more people must want to be nonces now. Why?

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But that means more people must want to be nonces now. Why?



Follow some of the groups and you will see what I mean. Do you want me to PM links of the groups to follow?

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[Edited by ceekay on 20-09-2017 12:57 PM]

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Follow some of the groups and you will see what I mean. Do you want me to PM links of the groups to follow?



The same links you got told to remove? Wink


Edit - "asked" to remove Big grin Only 5709 gets "told"


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Follow some of the groups and you will see what I mean. Do you want me to PM links of the groups to follow?



The same links you got told to remove? Wink


Edit - "asked" to remove Big grin Only 5709 gets "told"




haha hence why i can PM as was asked to remove Smile

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