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Coops wrote on 28-06-2010 11:27 AM
Football is a game that should flow quickly so I am naturally against anything that would harm this and stopping the game while the ref looks at video replays would definitely do this. I would rather put up with the odd bad decision than have the game interrupted.
Players would also use this to their advantage, appealing decisions to get the game stopped in order to regroup or ease pressure.
The only way I would be happy to see video technology being used would be to have a 5th official watching screens in a dug out and giving instant opinions to the referee in the same way the other officials do at present. It wont totally eradicate mistakes but at least it wouldn't stop the flow of the game or give players the chance to use the technology to gain an unfair advantage.
BTW: please stop accusing everybody who disagrees with you as being silly or stupid, it does nothing to bolster your argument and makes you come across as being a bit of a twat.
The 30 seconds it takes to review a goal on the TV if it was unclear if the ball had crossed the line would hardly stop the flow of the game.
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strings wrote on 28-06-2010 12:42 PM
Perhaps, but the butterfly effect comes to mind with stuff like that
Interesting point there - might have a bit more of a read up on it! What interests me is that we only seem to see this kind of giving up attitude in English football compared to other sports in this country - almost like there’s a lack of motivation or “do or die” attitude. The players are too comfortable, they know they’re more than just a footballer, being a marketable brand commodity, so their shelf life is prolonged, meaning every game doesn’t have the same potential to be their last any more.
Instead of looking to sack yet another manager, we should be looking to take remedial steps to stop the psychological rot among the players and instil a real desire and commitment to win. Sheffield Hallam University have run a super successful sports psychology programme as part of a bigger package that’s helped top flight athletes reach their full world championship capabilities – maybe it’s time they were involved?
It would take less than one minute for the replay to go up. And the play sort of stops anyway while everyone gets back up the field for either a goal kick or to restart after a goal. I've seen players take three minutes to get up after their own spectacular dives.
But what if the ball doesn't go out of play? Do you advocate stopping the game mid-flow and have the ref go and view the replay?
Or are you suggesting waiting until a natural pause occurs then taking play back?
Either idea seems horrendous to me.
Also the ref would have to view the incident from every possible angle for it to be fair. It could take 2 or 3 minutes.
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Coops wrote on 28-06-2010 03:51 PM
But what if the ball doesn't go out of play? Do you advocate stopping the game mid-flow and have the ref go and view the replay?
Or are you suggesting waiting until a natural pause occurs then taking play back?
Either idea seems horrendous to me.
Also the ref would have to view the incident from every possible angle for it to be fair. It could take 2 or 3 minutes.
Unless I have the wrong end of the stick, we are only talking about when it is in the actual goal, and a camera on the line would show that without needing several angles like rugby tries, where you have at least one body on the ball.
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The 30 seconds it takes to review a goal on the TV if it was unclear if the ball had crossed the line would hardly stop the flow of the game.
Why would you need to view a video to see if the ball has crossed the line?
Chip in ball technology would tell the ref instantly without the need for a video replay.
Unless I have the wrong end of the stick, we are only talking about when it is in the actual goal, and a camera on the line would show that without needing several angles like rugby tries, where you have at least one body on the ball.
Then why would you need video replays?
Chip in ball is 100% accurate and much less time consuming.
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Coops wrote on 28-06-2010 03:55 PM
Then why would you need video replays?
Chip in ball is 100% accurate and much less time consuming.
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Coops wrote on 28-06-2010 03:55 PM
Then why would you need video replays?
Chip in ball is 100% accurate and much less time consuming.
And probably more expensive than rigging a couple of cameras to the goal posts than chipping every ball. Also, how would you chip the ball to ensure teh chip lasts without damage, and how many balls would need chipping, etc.
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Coops wrote on 28-06-2010 03:51 PM
But what if the ball doesn't go out of play? Do you advocate stopping the game mid-flow and have the ref go and view the replay?
Or are you suggesting waiting until a natural pause occurs then taking play back?
Either idea seems horrendous to me.
Also the ref would have to view the incident from every possible angle for it to be fair. It could take 2 or 3 minutes.
Doesn't seem horrendous. If there was something put in that would punish dishonesty (cards perhaps) then people would be more likely to own up to handling the ball or the ball going over the line if they knew they would get caught out as soon as the ball went out of play. I still think a 5th official should be watching this stuff and reporting to the ref who can then make decisions on the fly.
It would change the dynamic of the game but I don't think it would change it for the worse.
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Latex Zebra wrote on 28-06-2010 04:11 PM
I still think a 5th official should be watching this stuff and reporting to the ref who can then make decisions on the fly.
It would change the dynamic of the game but I don't think it would change it for the worse.
Like the trials they ran during the Europa Cup?
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