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Latex Zebra wrote on 06-10-2017 01:14 PM

If... I say if. Wen they do oust May then you have to wonder what this will do to Brexit.
Given the the two front runners, Johnson and Mogg are both firm outers, you wonder if they will charge through with the hard brexit that lots of people, even leavers, don't want. Or whether they ask for more time and look weaker and weaker to Europe.
So, we either burn our bridges or end up looking toothless.

Funny thing is that if there had been no referendum and we wouldn't be in this position... The most soul destroying thing is that it's that weasley cunt Farrage that takes the blame. A fringe party leader that bullied the Conservatives into the referendum (UKIP wasn't really taking voters from the other parties) and has now helped the Tories implode whilst the party he led is pretty much dead and buried now.



A fairly accurate snapshot of it all. A few Tory MPs are talking up Amber Rudd or David Davis but as one put it: “David Davis? If the answer is David Davis, what the fuck is the question? He got smashed to bits by David Cameron, are we really now saying actually he was the right guy and we’re going back to him.

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Apparently it is still quite possible to renege on Brexit, lawfully. So if May gets turfed out, Brexit can too.

Or they can hold a new referendum.

Either one is good with me. Both would be ideal.

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Apparently it is still quite possible to renege on Brexit, lawfully. So if May gets turfed out, Brexit can too.

Or they can hold a new referendum.

Either one is good with me. Both would be ideal.


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Latex Zebra wrote on 06-10-2017 01:14 PM

If... I say if. Wen they do oust May then you have to wonder what this will do to Brexit.
Given the the two front runners, Johnson and Mogg are both firm outers, you wonder if they will charge through with the hard brexit that lots of people, even leavers, don't want. Or whether they ask for more time and look weaker and weaker to Europe.
So, we either burn our bridges or end up looking toothless.

Funny thing is that if there had been no referendum and we wouldn't be in this position... The most soul destroying thing is that it's that weasley cunt Farrage that takes the blame. A fringe party leader that bullied the Conservatives into the referendum (UKIP wasn't really taking voters from the other parties) and has now helped the Tories implode whilst the party he led is pretty much dead and buried now.



It is Cameron's fault that we had the referendum. He made a promise that helped secure him victory at the general election, putting personal power before the good of the country in true Tory style. It backfired massively and now we are fucked.

I've got chickens in my back yard

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It is Cameron's fault that we had the referendum. He made a promise that helped secure him victory at the general election, putting personal power before the good of the country in true Tory style. It backfired massively and now we are fucked.



If you think - rightly - that Cameron was an incompetent Machiavellian narcissist then you're not going to like Boris much once his jolly front disappears, should he triumph in this farce.

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If you think - rightly - that Cameron was an incompetent Machiavellian narcissist then you're not going to like Boris much once his jolly front disappears, should he triumph in this farce.



People seem to like the bumbling toff facade that Boris puts up. The only saving grace is that there may be enough people from his own party who realise what a disaster he would be as PM.

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but chuka looks and sounds like a terrorist



lol. have you heard him speak? he sounds posh as fuck. Plus he used to be a UK garage DJ

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Coops wrote on 09-10-2017 08:49 AM

It is Cameron's fault that we had the referendum. He made a promise that helped secure him victory at the general election, putting personal power before the good of the country in true Tory style. It backfired massively and now we are fucked.



If you think - rightly - that Cameron was an incompetent Machiavellian narcissist then you're not going to like Boris much once his jolly front disappears, should he triumph in this farce.



agree with all of this.

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Coops wrote on 09-10-2017 09:19 AM

People seem to like the bumbling toff facade that Boris puts up. The only saving grace is that there may be enough people from his own party who realise what a disaster he would be as PM.



Plenty of people seem drawn to JRM for the same reason, except he is slightly more of the real article than Johnson. Walter the Softie is also very well-connected and rich beyond measure, and Boris is a bit yesterday's man now so who knows, stranger things have happened. Both options make me weep, though.

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