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danj wrote on 29-06-2015 12:16 PM

While I'm one of those that would be happy to see the back of the 414, I do agree with you.




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i don't get this. just don't go



I don't, I always remember it being just marginally better a dive than the George IV though.

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danj wrote on 29-06-2015 01:55 PM

I don't, I always remember it being just marginally better a dive than the George IV though.



Then why be happy if it goes?
I dislike Subway (as in the fast food). I don't want them to shut down though.


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danj wrote on 29-06-2015 01:55 PM

I don't, I always remember it being just marginally better a dive than the George IV though.



That's the problem with people who have not set foot in the 414 for years - they have no idea how much hard work has gone into cleaning it up.

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Cleveland Steamer wrote on 29-06-2015 09:48 AM

What exactly is the petition for?
Are the people running the 414 wanting to exit it or are they being forced out by the landlord who wants to make some money on the building?

If it is the former then there is very little chance of saving it!



I'm not sure the latter is good either Frown

I presume the freeholder can make more money out of flats so the only way to prevent it is to offer more rent or have the planning application denied.

Lambeth Council seem hell bent on "gentrifying" the area so I think they'd favour a switch to retail and residential.

The applicant is Market Row Ltd, a property investment company so I'm guessing they own the freehold...

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15/03548/FUL | Change of use from existing nightclub/bar with ancillary residential/office to ground floor use as retail (Clas A1) or restaurant/cafe (Class A3) or takeaway (class A5) or mixed use comprising restaurant/cafe and takeaway (Class A3/A5); the creation of three self-contained residential flats at first and second floors; and associated works including demolition of existing rear ground/first floor extensions, construction of new ground/first floor extensions with terraces above and installation of replacement double glazed timber framed front windows, replacement shopfront. | 414 - 416 Coldharbour Lane London SW9 8LF.



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That's the problem with people who have not set foot in the 414 for years - they have no idea how much hard work has gone into cleaning it up.



If people don't like it fair enough. Not sure why anyone would be happy if it closed down though.

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I'm not sure the latter is good either Frown

I presume the freeholder can make more money out of flats so the only way to prevent it is to offer more rent or have the planning application denied.

Lambeth Council seem hell bent on "gentrifying" the area so I think they'd favour a switch to retail and residential.

The applicant is Market Row Ltd, a property investment company so I'm guessing they own the freehold...



Working for the council I know that an application like this isn't a done deal. I've seen applications tabled by an authority themselves crumble under the power of public objections.
The good thing about Planning is it is all public domain so getting info is relatively easy in some respects.
Whilst I am obviously very concerned I know that T & Louise will fight like hell to keep their home and their club. If those that even remotely give a shit help then the weight of numbers is something it will be hard for the authority to ignore.



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Latex Zebra wrote on 29-06-2015 10:18 AM

It's not the former.
From what we can find online there is someone making an application in view of taking on the lease and then redeveloping. If the application gets refused then, if the owners don't want the lease or can't get it, it will at least deter others from trying the same thing.



Do you know who owns the freehold?

Might it be worth appealing to them directly??

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Do you know who owns the freehold?

Might it be worth appealing to them directly??



Nope. I'm sure T & Louise will be doing stuff. I think that kind of stuff is best left to them and we supply the public outrage. The petition someone started is at around 700 names now in just over a day.

Even if you dislike the 414 do you want to see another venue shut down for property development?


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Latex Zebra wrote on 29-06-2015 02:29 PM

If people don't like it fair enough. Not sure why anyone would be happy if it closed down though.



Let's not keep focussing on the nay-sayers, there are far fewer these days and I think most of us know when to keep quiet...

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Latex Zebra wrote on 29-06-2015 02:32 PM

Working for the council I know that an application like this isn't a done deal. I've seen applications tabled by an authority themselves crumble under the power of public objections.
The good thing about Planning is it is all public domain so getting info is relatively easy in some respects.
Whilst I am obviously very concerned I know that T & Louise will fight like hell to keep their home and their club. If those that even remotely give a shit help then the weight of numbers is something it will be hard for the authority to ignore.



Cool, I presumed it would be an uphill struggle if the freeholder and council wanted the change.

How interested will the authority be in comments from people who don't live in the area?

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